Hi there! I'm a fellow Twine game developer, and I'm curious about the methods you used to get this on Steam and the Google Play store. Is there some way I can reach out to ask you a few questions? Any advice would be greatly appreciated!
There are only two killers. If Tess dies, Mother is the killer. If Tess lives, she is the killer. If you have a good relationship with Tess, she will always survive and be the killer. If you have a bad relationship with Tess, she will not survive and Mother will be the killer.
Thank you for your support and for reading the full game. It's possible that I didn't fully capture the essence of playing a non-binary MC for this game. Please feel free to share what you would have liked to see more as they can be explored in book 2.
With experience writing for other publishers, it has become a rule of thumb to not include anything offensive or derogatory in the game. You mentioned that you found it odd that Father was totally okay with using MC pronouns and Names, which falls under the "not using offensive or derogatory" details.
I would be happy if you recommend some lighthearted and positive scenarios of how to make non-binary MC feel more authentic.
As mentioned previously, Father doesn't care about MC, but he cares a great deal about Benny.
As for the prices of the townhouse, they can be quite expensive. Here's a link that I used as a reference for the price.
O.M.G i just finished playign the game and WOW was that endijng not expected. while im a little ssad it was short i CANNOT WAIT for the next book . Also i love kev too much for my own good.( Other note when i try to save now it says there is an error i dont know if its something with the game but could you please look into it.
Thank you. Glad you liked the game. Can you tell me which platform you are playing on? Apple, Google, or Steam? I did push some new updates, maybe that's why you could not save.
enjoy the game a lot as rich person lolololol I will i have 500,000,000 too.
i notice that you have reference about thailand many time like food and island. as thai, thank youuuuuuu. i never know we sell private islands. I thought our laws forbid foreigners to buy land greater than 400 m2! so I did google and find out it did really on sale. Man what the feck my government doing
OMG Book 2?! YES! Can't wait to continue this story.
Light spoilers ahead!!!!!
Although, I have a question. I'm not sure if this is an error, or it was supposed to be like this. When we are having the final family conference we have to guess who the killer is. I had my guess but they were not included in the choises. Later it got revealed that my guess was actually correct. Was this on purpose to make a twist, or was it really an error in the game? Or is it maybe because I'm missing a clue?
Your guess should have been included unless that person is dead. I will try to recreate the error and fix it in the next update. Thank you for the report. 💕
It's really nothing, glad to help! There's also something else I noticed. When I just started playing the game, some of the achievements were already revealed.
I deleted the reply you just made as it has some major spoilers. You can send me an email or a DM on Discord if you want to talk about it more. But I want to say that if the stats say that the person is dead, then they are dead. and when that person is dead you get another killer. When that person is alive they will be the killer so you can get different killers depending of your playthrough.
Now if you say that despite that person being dead, they still show up and talk to you at the end then that's a bug.
i pre-ordered it on the app store !!! i'm so excited to play this, i really enjoyed the demo!
update: i literally finished the whole thing in one sitting and have been playing it the whole day trying to unlock all the achievements T^T absolutely enjoyed this game and I CANNOT WAIT FOR BOOK 2 !! AAAHHHHHHHHH
I know this may be a a lot to ask for but I’ve been waiting for this game to drop and I found it costed money so is it possible for you to make a website or a version where you can play for free?
Hi, It took me a year to make this game and I spent over $2,000 on it. Platform fees for Steam and Apple Store, coding, artwork, new computer because you need a Mac computer to publish on Apple Store, and proofreading and all that. There’s a chance that I will not make the money back.
Sorry, but that’s why the game cost money and I can’t put it up for free. You can join the discord or follow the tumblr as I’m sure I will be doing some giveaway after a couple of weeks from the release date.
Hey so I've read through the demo, and while I really liked it overall there was one big thing that I felt was a bit off. Apologize in advance if this is something already adressed later.
(Minor Spoilers Ahead)
So basically I found it very strange that like the MC's dad is apparently queerphobic enough that your brother is afraid to come out, but then is just completely fine with like using whatever the MCs prefered pronouns I guess.
Now I get not wanting to have a character constantly misgender the MC, and I guess it is technically possible, if unlikely, for someone to be homophobic but not transphobic, so I would be willing to just roll with it, if it weren't for this next bit.
Basically, at least to me, it kinda feels like it kinda implictly codes the MC as cis if they're a man or woman. Like if their nonbinary, you just gotta roll with it, there's no real way to think their cis, so you just gotta accept their dad is apparently extremely homophobic, but 100% okay using the MCs prefered pronouns. But like if you're playing as a character that goes by he/him or she/her, and you have a father whose a bigot, but then doesn't seem to have any sort of problem using your prefered pronouns/name, it kinda, at least to me, gives off the implication that your character is cis.
The only other much smaller thing is I'm kinda disappointed you can't like choose to not have a bunch of super expensive stuff. Like I wanna just play the family member that everyone hates, cause I always rock up in the my Honda Civic wearing the same $50 suit I bought 10 years ago at Target. But that's mainly personal preference, not really an actual problem or anything.
I realize it's probably too late to do much about it, with it coming out in just over 2 weeks but I still figured it couldn't to at least mention it. Better late than never and all that.
Other than that, like I said, really enjoyed what's there so far, and will definitely read the full thing when it's out.
Not sure how to hide spoilers on here so (Minor Spoilers ahead)
To touch on your first observation, in this game, MC can try to build relationships with all the family members, MC can be a people pleaser and side with the family no matter what they do. Some will change their behavior based on MC's relationship with them and some will not.
Spoiler: Father is one of those who will not change his behavior towards MC. No matter MC's gender identity, Father will still be an ass. If your bodyguard is a woman, Father will make remarks about that, and further in the story he even makes remarks about disowning MC, Cis, or Trans. All that to say that father is an ass, period. He makes it clear throughout the story that the only person he cares for is Benny. That is why Benny is the golden boy and beloved son, hence why Benny is also afraid to come out to his father.
I agree with the preferred pronouns bit, and I think there's a scene in the demo where MC is talking about their relationship with father, so I can certainly add an if statement saying that getting father to use MC's preferred pronouns was a small victory, and it only happened after relentless tries.
To touch on your second observation, MC is a billionaire, the prologue opens up with MC acknowledging that they are wealthy. I figured that there are enough games out there that let you play as someone without a dime to your name, so in this game, I wanted to allow the player to live the life of a billionaire. Just so you know, there are cheap options to choose from. Choices such as "Old limo" and "Renovated townhouse" are considered things of poor people in this world, those choices matter because they increase the "Modest" stats for MC, and having high Modest stats will affect your relationship with some of the characters. The amount of money in MC's bank also matters.
Also, the choices where you decide if you are a party animal or you had a DUI or you were making a deal, those choices also affect how the others see you throughout the game.
For the first part, thanks a lot. I appreciate it.
For the second part I think I might have made my example a bit too hyperbolic and muddled my point. I get that the MC is supposed to be rich, I more was talking about like, conspicuous consumption, i.e. buying expensive things, not cause they're better quality or cause you like them better, but for the sake of showing off how much money you can afford to spend. It makes it hard to play a more modest character, or a character that doesn't really care about like appearing super wealthy, cause like sure you can pick a cheaper car or house, but then like you not only have to have a designer outfit for the funeral but the most expensive designer outfit.
Like I think the car options are a good example of what I mean. Like the 'modest' option is still a limo, which is really only something you buy to show people you can afford to be driven around in a limo. I honestly felt like the bike was a more modest option, cause that's is something I could much more see as something you'd purchase cause you genuinely wanted it, rather than just to go, "hey look at me, I can pay $1 million for a car then hire someone to drive me places".
Also, sidenote, if the cheapest house option is supposed to be a renovated townhouse, there's an error in the game, cause the options presented are a $95 million town house or an $18 Million renovated mansion.
Also in regards to spoilers, the answer is Itch doesn't have a way to hide spoilers in comments.
My theory is that Tess actually got really high or drunk at one of her parties and accidentally killed someone in a way similar to pushing them off a balcony, leading to her technically be a murderer
I played the game until I got to chapter 1 and realized that was just the first part, great game except I wish it had pictures. Clear the next 2 hours if you want to finish the game. 4.5/10 would recommend it to good readers.
I am aware of that and some if not most text-based games can be fun but on the other hand, they may also be boring I'm not trying to say that people can't enjoy this game even though it has no pictures but I think this game would be better with pictures.
That would be difficult for the person making this game, because of the character customization and how it affects how other people in the game look, that would take a lot of coding and drawing/money (since not everyone can draw over and over again).
This is, by no means, me trying to disagree (Twine games can look nice with visuals!), but I'm just giving a reason as to why someone wouldn't have pictures in a demo.
That is true. But I have seen many games with amazing art so who knows the person who made this game may just not want to draw the characters over and over again believe me I understand why. But still, I think games with pictures are more interesting but you are free to disagree.
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Hi there! I'm a fellow Twine game developer, and I'm curious about the methods you used to get this on Steam and the Google Play store. Is there some way I can reach out to ask you a few questions? Any advice would be greatly appreciated!
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my app store and steam is region restricted, could you please upload a buyable version on itch.io? that'd be helpful
sorry if I'm late... I just reread the book again and keep trying after book 2 demo
spoiler ahead:
is there only one killer? Or could it change through our choices? If so what's the difference and how to get it?? Thank youuu <3
There are only two killers. If Tess dies, Mother is the killer. If Tess lives, she is the killer. If you have a good relationship with Tess, she will always survive and be the killer. If you have a bad relationship with Tess, she will not survive and Mother will be the killer.
I want to be nice with Tess :((, but the end kinda make me feel like a bad person. Thank you for answering!! I really appreciate it <3
I love it buy it in play store and it's great You can post the discord and tumblr link
The Discord is down but here's the Tumblr
I can't wait to get a credit card. I'm buying this game as soon as I have one.
I loved this game so much, I love all your games, I love kev so much I can't wait for book 2 :3
💕 :)
no wonder keavy doesn't want anybody to know their name
LMAO 😅
Kinda disappointing there's no option for buying it here.
Congrats on the release though!
Thank you for your support and for reading the full game. It's possible that I didn't fully capture the essence of playing a non-binary MC for this game. Please feel free to share what you would have liked to see more as they can be explored in book 2.
With experience writing for other publishers, it has become a rule of thumb to not include anything offensive or derogatory in the game. You mentioned that you found it odd that Father was totally okay with using MC pronouns and Names, which falls under the "not using offensive or derogatory" details.
I would be happy if you recommend some lighthearted and positive scenarios of how to make non-binary MC feel more authentic.
As mentioned previously, Father doesn't care about MC, but he cares a great deal about Benny.
As for the prices of the townhouse, they can be quite expensive. Here's a link that I used as a reference for the price.
https://galeriemagazine.com/most-expensive-townhouses-new-york/
Bro, ur actually nagging. Go make ur own game and leave them alone. Good god.
O.M.G i just finished playign the game and WOW was that endijng not expected. while im a little ssad it was short i CANNOT WAIT for the next book . Also i love kev too much for my own good.( Other note when i try to save now it says there is an error i dont know if its something with the game but could you please look into it.
Thank you. Glad you liked the game. Can you tell me which platform you are playing on? Apple, Google, or Steam? I did push some new updates, maybe that's why you could not save.
sorry for the late reply im playing on steam but it ended up fixing itself after opeing anc closing the game :"
enjoy the game a lot as rich person lolololol I will i have 500,000,000 too.
i notice that you have reference about thailand many time like food and island. as thai, thank youuuuuuu. i never know we sell private islands.
I thought our laws forbid foreigners to buy land greater than 400 m2! so I did google and find out it did really on sale. Man what the feck my government doing💕 Yes, those island names and Yatch names and private jets names are all real.
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OMG Book 2?! YES! Can't wait to continue this story.
Light spoilers ahead!!!!!
Although, I have a question. I'm not sure if this is an error, or it was supposed to be like this. When we are having the final family conference we have to guess who the killer is. I had my guess but they were not included in the choises. Later it got revealed that my guess was actually correct. Was this on purpose to make a twist, or was it really an error in the game? Or is it maybe because I'm missing a clue?
Your guess should have been included unless that person is dead. I will try to recreate the error and fix it in the next update. Thank you for the report. 💕
It's really nothing, glad to help! There's also something else I noticed. When I just started playing the game, some of the achievements were already revealed.
I loved Book 1 btw! Thank you for your work! <3
I deleted the reply you just made as it has some major spoilers. You can send me an email or a DM on Discord if you want to talk about it more. But I want to say that if the stats say that the person is dead, then they are dead. and when that person is dead you get another killer. When that person is alive they will be the killer so you can get different killers depending of your playthrough.
Now if you say that despite that person being dead, they still show up and talk to you at the end then that's a bug.
Let me know. thanks.
i pre-ordered it on the app store !!! i'm so excited to play this, i really enjoyed the demo!
update: i literally finished the whole thing in one sitting and have been playing it the whole day trying to unlock all the achievements T^T absolutely enjoyed this game and I CANNOT WAIT FOR BOOK 2 !! AAAHHHHHHHHH
Thank you 💕
Just bought the game on Steam, love it so far! Just like the demo!
Oh my !! Oh my !! It's here !!!
I love this game ! We have suspense, murder mystery, complot & enough romance/play game to tease us.
Everyone PLAY the demo !!
It's always a pleasure to play it. It's high recommendation.
Ps : Will the game be on itch.io ? Some people like me do not have Steam or Apple Store actually ah, ah, ah...
I know this may be a a lot to ask for but I’ve been waiting for this game to drop and I found it costed money so is it possible for you to make a website or a version where you can play for free?
Hi, It took me a year to make this game and I spent over $2,000 on it. Platform fees for Steam and Apple Store, coding, artwork, new computer because you need a Mac computer to publish on Apple Store, and proofreading and all that. There’s a chance that I will not make the money back.
Sorry, but that’s why the game cost money and I can’t put it up for free. You can join the discord or follow the tumblr as I’m sure I will be doing some giveaway after a couple of weeks from the release date.
ok thank you also could you post the link to discord
https://href.li/?https://discord.gg/czneJMTxxT
OKAY i am fine i am fine I AM NOT FINE THIS IS SO AMAZINGHBJIKOLA-
i can say the same. holy cow.
Hey so I've read through the demo, and while I really liked it overall there was one big thing that I felt was a bit off. Apologize in advance if this is something already adressed later.
(Minor Spoilers Ahead)
So basically I found it very strange that like the MC's dad is apparently queerphobic enough that your brother is afraid to come out, but then is just completely fine with like using whatever the MCs prefered pronouns I guess.
Now I get not wanting to have a character constantly misgender the MC, and I guess it is technically possible, if unlikely, for someone to be homophobic but not transphobic, so I would be willing to just roll with it, if it weren't for this next bit.
Basically, at least to me, it kinda feels like it kinda implictly codes the MC as cis if they're a man or woman. Like if their nonbinary, you just gotta roll with it, there's no real way to think their cis, so you just gotta accept their dad is apparently extremely homophobic, but 100% okay using the MCs prefered pronouns. But like if you're playing as a character that goes by he/him or she/her, and you have a father whose a bigot, but then doesn't seem to have any sort of problem using your prefered pronouns/name, it kinda, at least to me, gives off the implication that your character is cis.
The only other much smaller thing is I'm kinda disappointed you can't like choose to not have a bunch of super expensive stuff. Like I wanna just play the family member that everyone hates, cause I always rock up in the my Honda Civic wearing the same $50 suit I bought 10 years ago at Target. But that's mainly personal preference, not really an actual problem or anything.
I realize it's probably too late to do much about it, with it coming out in just over 2 weeks but I still figured it couldn't to at least mention it. Better late than never and all that.
Other than that, like I said, really enjoyed what's there so far, and will definitely read the full thing when it's out.
Thanks for the feedback.
Not sure how to hide spoilers on here so (Minor Spoilers ahead)
To touch on your first observation, in this game, MC can try to build relationships with all the family members, MC can be a people pleaser and side with the family no matter what they do. Some will change their behavior based on MC's relationship with them and some will not.
Spoiler: Father is one of those who will not change his behavior towards MC. No matter MC's gender identity, Father will still be an ass. If your bodyguard is a woman, Father will make remarks about that, and further in the story he even makes remarks about disowning MC, Cis, or Trans. All that to say that father is an ass, period. He makes it clear throughout the story that the only person he cares for is Benny. That is why Benny is the golden boy and beloved son, hence why Benny is also afraid to come out to his father.
I agree with the preferred pronouns bit, and I think there's a scene in the demo where MC is talking about their relationship with father, so I can certainly add an if statement saying that getting father to use MC's preferred pronouns was a small victory, and it only happened after relentless tries.
To touch on your second observation, MC is a billionaire, the prologue opens up with MC acknowledging that they are wealthy. I figured that there are enough games out there that let you play as someone without a dime to your name, so in this game, I wanted to allow the player to live the life of a billionaire. Just so you know, there are cheap options to choose from. Choices such as "Old limo" and "Renovated townhouse" are considered things of poor people in this world, those choices matter because they increase the "Modest" stats for MC, and having high Modest stats will affect your relationship with some of the characters. The amount of money in MC's bank also matters.
Also, the choices where you decide if you are a party animal or you had a DUI or you were making a deal, those choices also affect how the others see you throughout the game.
Again, thank you for playing.
For the first part, thanks a lot. I appreciate it.
For the second part I think I might have made my example a bit too hyperbolic and muddled my point. I get that the MC is supposed to be rich, I more was talking about like, conspicuous consumption, i.e. buying expensive things, not cause they're better quality or cause you like them better, but for the sake of showing off how much money you can afford to spend. It makes it hard to play a more modest character, or a character that doesn't really care about like appearing super wealthy, cause like sure you can pick a cheaper car or house, but then like you not only have to have a designer outfit for the funeral but the most expensive designer outfit.
Like I think the car options are a good example of what I mean. Like the 'modest' option is still a limo, which is really only something you buy to show people you can afford to be driven around in a limo. I honestly felt like the bike was a more modest option, cause that's is something I could much more see as something you'd purchase cause you genuinely wanted it, rather than just to go, "hey look at me, I can pay $1 million for a car then hire someone to drive me places".
Also, sidenote, if the cheapest house option is supposed to be a renovated townhouse, there's an error in the game, cause the options presented are a $95 million town house or an $18 Million renovated mansion.
Also in regards to spoilers, the answer is Itch doesn't have a way to hide spoilers in comments.
LETS GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO THE FULL GAME IS GONNA BE HERE SOON
are you gonna make it available for android too? i hope so pleaseee
I NEED THIS GAME SO BAD NDJNKVDJKDVJKFV
im just a girl flirting w all the women in the game please i need the full version here
My theory is that Tess actually got really high or drunk at one of her parties and accidentally killed someone in a way similar to pushing them off a balcony, leading to her technically be a murderer
That’s what I think
so are you gonna put the full thing on itch or no?
I’ll see how things go with Steam and Apple first.
if you put in on Apple Store I’ll definitely download it such an interesting game and I love it
YAY
Holy crap that was actually pretty alright story hope you update regularly
HOLY CRAP AMAZING DEMO I NEED THE FULL THING
It's really a good demo!!
This is an interesting idea can't wait for the next update!
This was so fun to play i cant wait!!!
Woah thiss iss interesting so far ! Cant wait for the full release
This game is so cool and I can't wait for the full release
Same, man! I named myself Gaylord and made pronouns about me being an idiot
I made the entire family name revolve around being incompetent idiots.
I gave the grandfather and dad stupid but funny names that made me laugh every time they appeared
I played the game until I got to chapter 1 and realized that was just the first part, great game except I wish it had pictures. Clear the next 2 hours if you want to finish the game. 4.5/10 would recommend it to good readers.
Twines/text-based games don't have pictures most of the time, since it's a text-based game
I am aware of that and some if not most text-based games can be fun but on the other hand, they may also be boring I'm not trying to say that people can't enjoy this game even though it has no pictures but I think this game would be better with pictures.
That would be difficult for the person making this game, because of the character customization and how it affects how other people in the game look, that would take a lot of coding and drawing/money (since not everyone can draw over and over again).
This is, by no means, me trying to disagree (Twine games can look nice with visuals!), but I'm just giving a reason as to why someone wouldn't have pictures in a demo.
That is true. But I have seen many games with amazing art so who knows the person who made this game may just not want to draw the characters over and over again believe me I understand why. But still, I think games with pictures are more interesting but you are free to disagree.
Ofc! Thanks for understanding!
game was getting boring and it took to long to get to chapter 1
when is the release
I stared at the screen for like 10 seconds as soon as the "End of demo" screen popped up
also i made a whole account just to comment on this. Question, is there a full game already?
same. almost cried tbh
I WAS SO INTO THE GAME im so sad :((
oooh i remember this one from choicescript. glad to see it back!
the plot is really interesting and the characters have personality!! cant wait for the releaseee :))
Does anyone know what software these types of games use?
Btw, amazing game. I'm absolutely here for it and can't wait for the full release!
The game is made using an engine called Twine.
can't wait for full release!
Oh I can't wait for the full release this demo was so good!!